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Dan Ehrenkrantz's avatar

Two quick additions to the Talmud story. Apologies if you’re already familiar…

1) The phrase that ends the argument “It’s not in heaven” is a quote from the Torah. So Torah is quoted to tell the heavenly voice to “back off.” It’s a nice irony.

2) The story goes on to ask how God responded. It says “Upon hearing Rabbi Joshua's response, God laughed and said, "My children have defeated Me; My children have defeated Me."

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Christopher Carden's avatar

I haven't read this piece before, but it's very forthright, engaging, and dare I say it, kind and fair in describing your father; the image in my mind of him conversing/debating his grandchild is priceless. As an older (I'm not elderly! No, I refuse to be elderly!) WASP male, I still struggle with family dynamics and foibles that I was raised with and understand could (and can) be quite limiting. Yet I still try to be generous emotionally and intellectually, even if they do not reciprocate. Brava on a very touching piece.

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