I haven't watched any of these shows in the last few years but that five minutes of New Amsterdam certainly captures the fear and exhaustion that my friends in the medical profession have told me about their life during the pandemic. I find it fascinating that you continue to defend The Morning Show against its most negative critics. We all do that, don't we? Defend our favorite shows no matter what a few, some, or all critics might say. This morning, I read a list article about small errors of logic in TV shows. And the list mentioned a bit of illogic in Firefly, one of my favorite shows of all time and one that only lasted for 13 episodes. Oh, my blood boiled when the article said, "No wonder this show got cancelled." I almost posted in the comments then laughed at myself. Look at what love does to us!
Yes, we get very attached. I was crushed (too strong a word) when the last episode (this past week’s) sort of degenerated. It felt like a personal betrayal, after all the Facebook posts and notes I’d written praising the show. But it’s never been the kind of love affair I had with Madmen, Six Feet Under, or The Bear. And I defended Siobhan Roy on “Succession” till my fingers ached. (I’ve not seen Firefly—and you’ve got me intrigued.)
I think you wanted Shiv to be a better person than she was or at least better than her brothers. But she was her own kind of awful. Succession might be my favorite show of all time.
Yes, they were all awful. And all damaged. But only Siobhan got so thoroughly trashed on Facebook—while the bros were constantly being defended. If you followed some of the social media on the show, it just reeks of singular hatred of Shiv.
I also loved Succession (after being put off initially, feeling like a nerd at a party of cool kids) and wrote about it every week the last season. Maybe you’ve already seen my many posts, but if not, check them out sometime. Looking back on them, I’m amazed at how involved I was with the show. There’s nothing on now that’s involving me as much.
Yeah, the misogyny specifically directed at Shiv was troubling. I think it arose, in part, because society expects women to be "better" than men. I think society does indeed admire male anti-heroes but reacts hostility to female anti-heroes. I thought Shiv was just as anti-heroic as her brothers and it was fascinating.
We’re new to THE MORNING SHOW, and you’ve whetted my appetite for season three. Thank you for another provocative review that looks below shiny surfaces.
You’re welcome. Looking forward to getting to your first piece very soon. As you know from my FB comments, I’ve wanted to see your writing here for awhile. It’s kind of pressure-ful for various reasons, but the rewards (not talking about $) are great.
Yes, you should wait a few days. I learned the hard way. At the beginning I got over-eager and posted 3 or more times a week. That’s fine for the newsletters that are news and gossip oriented, but Laurie Stone advised me that every four days or so worked best for her, with little “seductions” on FB and notes published in between stacks. Maybe more would work for you, but both for my own sanity and keeping my readers from mailbox exhaustion, once, maybe sometimes twice a week (when I just gotta comment on something timely) works better for me.
One of your best. The episode of The Morning Show that you discuss received the poorest ratings and reviews (relatively). Some folks are just insensitive. I think your take on the fights, insecurity, and guilt that many of us experienced is spot on.
Thank you. I hadn’t realized that people were in such a state of denial—or retreat—or what? Researching this topic and finding so little on it—and the cold reviews of “Morning Show”—was kind of shocking.
I dumped all shows that became didactic during the pandemic. Blackish was the first. The minute a mask came on tv, I was out. Real life was bad enough.
You mean during the pandemic, or now? “Morning Show” is from last week. I was kind of amazed watching it how much I’d forgotten (or repressed) about those times.
Your observations, as always, are spot on, Susan. (Meaning I guess, that we tend to agree...)
I'm hooked on the Morning Show again, and while I might have some minor gripes, the handling of the COVID epidemic works for me.
It's a show that follows current events so they had to address the pandemic in more than just perfunctory terms. It had to affect the station. Real people had to endure whatever effects or side effects COVID might produce, including separations from family and friends.
The argument between Bradley and Laura was brutal, but not the least bit bordering on soap opera. It could be the acting is so good, but more likely it was that the writing caught their anguish just right.
I wanted to cry for Bradley and protect her from Laura's terrible truths, while at the same time, cheer Laura on. That's what good writing does.
And thank you for bringing Trump into it, too. If only he had been part of a soap opera we could turn off and never to have to watch again.
As @Sherman Alexie would say, we do tend to fall in love with the same shows. Love your unexpected and perfect last sentence too. We’re both tender-hearted and sardonic—something else we have in common. BTW, I was fascinated to read (was going to quote but couldn’t find a place to) that Mimi Leder, who directed the pandemic Morning Show episode (and others) was the screenwriter/director for “The Leftovers,” too, which she describes as being about how people go on after they lose their families. That’s a pre-COVID show, but interesting that this seems a theme she’s drawn to.
Yes, you’re absolutely right. I hadn’t realized it until I started looking for tv shows about it, and couldn’t find them. It’ll be interesting to see if people avoid my post too!!
I haven't watched any of these shows in the last few years but that five minutes of New Amsterdam certainly captures the fear and exhaustion that my friends in the medical profession have told me about their life during the pandemic. I find it fascinating that you continue to defend The Morning Show against its most negative critics. We all do that, don't we? Defend our favorite shows no matter what a few, some, or all critics might say. This morning, I read a list article about small errors of logic in TV shows. And the list mentioned a bit of illogic in Firefly, one of my favorite shows of all time and one that only lasted for 13 episodes. Oh, my blood boiled when the article said, "No wonder this show got cancelled." I almost posted in the comments then laughed at myself. Look at what love does to us!
Yes, we get very attached. I was crushed (too strong a word) when the last episode (this past week’s) sort of degenerated. It felt like a personal betrayal, after all the Facebook posts and notes I’d written praising the show. But it’s never been the kind of love affair I had with Madmen, Six Feet Under, or The Bear. And I defended Siobhan Roy on “Succession” till my fingers ached. (I’ve not seen Firefly—and you’ve got me intrigued.)
I think you wanted Shiv to be a better person than she was or at least better than her brothers. But she was her own kind of awful. Succession might be my favorite show of all time.
Yes, they were all awful. And all damaged. But only Siobhan got so thoroughly trashed on Facebook—while the bros were constantly being defended. If you followed some of the social media on the show, it just reeks of singular hatred of Shiv.
I also loved Succession (after being put off initially, feeling like a nerd at a party of cool kids) and wrote about it every week the last season. Maybe you’ve already seen my many posts, but if not, check them out sometime. Looking back on them, I’m amazed at how involved I was with the show. There’s nothing on now that’s involving me as much.
Yeah, the misogyny specifically directed at Shiv was troubling. I think it arose, in part, because society expects women to be "better" than men. I think society does indeed admire male anti-heroes but reacts hostility to female anti-heroes. I thought Shiv was just as anti-heroic as her brothers and it was fascinating.
We’re new to THE MORNING SHOW, and you’ve whetted my appetite for season three. Thank you for another provocative review that looks below shiny surfaces.
You’re welcome. Looking forward to getting to your first piece very soon. As you know from my FB comments, I’ve wanted to see your writing here for awhile. It’s kind of pressure-ful for various reasons, but the rewards (not talking about $) are great.
It is posted and getting great reaction. Next post ready to go and soon to arrive but don’t want to overwhelm people. I know you have been swamped.
Yes, you should wait a few days. I learned the hard way. At the beginning I got over-eager and posted 3 or more times a week. That’s fine for the newsletters that are news and gossip oriented, but Laurie Stone advised me that every four days or so worked best for her, with little “seductions” on FB and notes published in between stacks. Maybe more would work for you, but both for my own sanity and keeping my readers from mailbox exhaustion, once, maybe sometimes twice a week (when I just gotta comment on something timely) works better for me.
One of your best. The episode of The Morning Show that you discuss received the poorest ratings and reviews (relatively). Some folks are just insensitive. I think your take on the fights, insecurity, and guilt that many of us experienced is spot on.
Thank you. I hadn’t realized that people were in such a state of denial—or retreat—or what? Researching this topic and finding so little on it—and the cold reviews of “Morning Show”—was kind of shocking.
I dumped all shows that became didactic during the pandemic. Blackish was the first. The minute a mask came on tv, I was out. Real life was bad enough.
You mean during the pandemic, or now? “Morning Show” is from last week. I was kind of amazed watching it how much I’d forgotten (or repressed) about those times.
Your observations, as always, are spot on, Susan. (Meaning I guess, that we tend to agree...)
I'm hooked on the Morning Show again, and while I might have some minor gripes, the handling of the COVID epidemic works for me.
It's a show that follows current events so they had to address the pandemic in more than just perfunctory terms. It had to affect the station. Real people had to endure whatever effects or side effects COVID might produce, including separations from family and friends.
The argument between Bradley and Laura was brutal, but not the least bit bordering on soap opera. It could be the acting is so good, but more likely it was that the writing caught their anguish just right.
I wanted to cry for Bradley and protect her from Laura's terrible truths, while at the same time, cheer Laura on. That's what good writing does.
And thank you for bringing Trump into it, too. If only he had been part of a soap opera we could turn off and never to have to watch again.
As @Sherman Alexie would say, we do tend to fall in love with the same shows. Love your unexpected and perfect last sentence too. We’re both tender-hearted and sardonic—something else we have in common. BTW, I was fascinated to read (was going to quote but couldn’t find a place to) that Mimi Leder, who directed the pandemic Morning Show episode (and others) was the screenwriter/director for “The Leftovers,” too, which she describes as being about how people go on after they lose their families. That’s a pre-COVID show, but interesting that this seems a theme she’s drawn to.
Yes, you’re absolutely right. I hadn’t realized it until I started looking for tv shows about it, and couldn’t find them. It’ll be interesting to see if people avoid my post too!!